Quote from Flyn Ryan on Jun 12^th, 2012, 6:41am:

 
Xbill and ryan,
 
 you guys are missing the point all together. Never said that he should widen his demographic. Read my original post, and what the original member was asking by in regards to the shop. I was simply responding back to wildman and his question at what I was getting at. I love the shop that its fly fishing only. I don't know the shop's business model or nor do I care to ever find out about it. Simply Put It was a comparison to validate a point. However since some did not understand: The original poster was asking would it help the shop? My response was if a passer by that just read the WON publication came up and saw a sign at our fly shop we love so much only have the word fishing above it, they might stop in. He kinda missed the word Fly in front of it. Once again read my original post to as "why" they do not put fly fishing articles specific in there publication. I believe it may increase foot traffic ever so slightly but I hope it gets better for Guy. He has simply deserved it and works his @ss off at that shop. Both him and his wife and kids. Good people that I respect greatly. Any publication that can bring him business I 100% back.  
 
Am I comparing the Chamber of Commerce to WON, no, I am not. once again; please re-read my posts before you respond. Simply put in terms you may understand: If you are going to HATE on one publication. You may want to look at where many of its "original" sources are coming from. Those sources are coming from the town. I do not hate the Town. I am a home owner up here. Why would I?
 
As far as rafters trashing the river, yes I do have this belief. I am not just looking at it from the river guided trips. I look at from the three houses on my street that are having full fledged parties till 3 am and come out too see that the racoons have spread there trash all around. Guided Trips are not the only form of rafting up here. Kayakers and double seated rafts that campers do not need a guide to operate can stay with them while camping. Look outside the box, not sure how many of you only come up for fly fishing, however I hunt, fish, hike and off road my Jeep all around these parts. Campers do have the majority of the blame. Difference between myself and I think everybody on here is that I don't complain about it. I just act upon it and pick up trash when needed.  
 
In regards to hating people on here. Don't hate anybody. Only the characteristic of being holier than thou because you choose a fly rod over a conventional set up.  
 
Its funny on this board how things can get off topic so fast and everybody is so quick to fault each other and correct them like a punishment. I will always back up what my post's are in regards to. Like I said to Wildman, no disrespect meant to him and I will put it out to everybody.

Thank you for expanding.... I did misunderstand you.  
 
I'm sure living in kernville gives you a deeper understanding of these issues.  I hadn't thought about the 20 something crowd of seasonal rafting guides partying all night and trashing the place.  With that said, I would like to see the rafting community take a more proactive approach to caring for the river (and the town).... way off topic.  Maybe they do participate in river clean ups and what not... I don't know.  All I know is that WON is not my cup of tea.

I guided way back in the day for a couple of whitewater outfits. My experience there was that all of the guides took amazing care to pack out garbage and demonstrate best environmental practices. To do anything less would put an outfitters permit in serious jeopardy.  
 
I'm guessing that the 'rafters' being referred to are the idiots who get blazed, hop on their cheap inflatible raft (aka Wal Mart Coffin) and float the river. They are usually the same folks who add their number to the fatality list of the Kern.  
 

Thank you. And I agree with a lot of the other comments. I personally can't stand WON anymore because it is not as personal as it used to be. But it does give good info at times.