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Reply #30 - Sep 30th, 2010, 9:13pm
 
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Comparing the weight you carry to mere mortals is like comparing a VW to a semi.  You're friggin bigger than most people on the planet  Shocked.  We expect you to carry your stuff and then some  Grin.
 
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Reply #31 - Sep 30th, 2010, 10:23pm
 
Quote from Sasquatch on Sep 30th, 2010, 8:37pm:
. But I think I'm seeing a pattern here... Small weight savings per item clearly = a HUGE weight savings cumulatively as you're throwing all that shiatt on your back.


Old saying:
"Take care of the ounces, and the pounds take care of themselves."
You just hit that nail right on the head.  
Some people clip tags off of their clothing, cut the handle off of the toothbrush and drill holes in what's left of the handle.
Others carry folding chairs with them.
Everybody's different. You've got to find your own sweet spot. For some, it's finding the ultra-lightest way to go. For others it's all about comfort and familiarity.  
I see it as an evolution. If you don't use it this time, why carry it next time?
And if a 2lb sleeping bag is good, is a 1lb bag better? Well, in my opinion, only if it keeps you warm enough at night, and if you've got enough cash to get it.
Which brings up another tired, old saying:
"Light, cheap, durable-pick any two."
Throw enough money at the weight problem and you can "solve" it. But is that realistic for everyone? No.  
 
My kit has evolved over the course of the last 15 years or so- no way is it the lightest, but it's about as light as I can get it without sacrificing some of the comfort I need in order to make the experience enjoyable. That should be your goal.
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Re: Backpacking equipment
Reply #32 - Sep 30th, 2010, 10:36pm
 
I have some great ideas and tips now from this thread. Thanks to everybody for posting their tips, tricks, and ideas.
 
Heres a question for you guys. I'm looking to buy a new pack, will a 3500-4000 cu.in. pack work well for week long type trips?
I don't have a problem carrying a little more weight for a little more comfort.
Any opinions on pack brands?  
I can get Osprey's at a discounted price, look like nice packs to me.
Thanks in advance for the opinions.
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Reply #33 - Oct 1st, 2010, 2:23am
 
Quote from Flyn Ryan on Sep 30th, 2010, 4:56pm:
Quote from John Harper on Sep 30th, 2010, 4:32pm:


I found the polypro thermals work fine if it turns cold, I try to plan my trips for good weather anyway.  Plus, how cold does it get in Kern Canyon before November.

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a few weeks ago I slept in the back of my truck with a sleeping bag and got a bit chili.

 
I too have found that polypro is one of the best things one can have in cold weather.  I trained/survived a month on top of a mountain in Bridgport in the dead of winter.  One of those weeks was spent sleeping in a snow cave.  As far as clothing goes, I packed in not much more than polypro glove liners,  polypro long underwear, top and bottoms, a cotton t-shirt, gortex hooded coat, Danner Boots, and Gortex Gloves with three pairs of socks.   Thats probably some of the lightest cold weather clothing you can buy.  You would be surprized at how warm you can be with the right gear.  Another good tip is to get a mesh style t-shirt (kind of like a football jersey) to wear under your polypro underwear.  It creates air pockets of heat next to your body.  The polypro wicks the sweat from your body to the cotton shirt, and the air that comes through the vents in the gortex coat will usually dry the sweat.   If you are really ready to battle mother nature and go as light as possible, you don't pack a tent in but carry a plastic/vinyl poncho and build some sort of shelter to sleep under.  You wrap the poncho around you and your sleeping bag, and on top of a foam sleeping pad, we used to call it a Ranger Roll.  Basically you are wraping yourself up like a burrito inside your sleeping bag under shelter.  (WORKS GREAT!) As far as all the other gear it's personel preference.  If your not going to use it, don't pack it in.  ONLY PACK ESSENTIALS!!  Well there is my two cents.  Hope it helps.  Peace  Cool Drew  
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Reply #34 - Oct 1st, 2010, 9:19am
 
Osprey packs are a good quality pack. Any of the name brands like Kelty, Osprey, Gregory make good equitpment. One piece of advice though, try on the packs with at least 30 lbs in them. When you load on the weight the packs will feel much differant on your body. Also I would tend for a smaller pack. If you buy a larger pack you will tend to fill it up with stuff you really don't need. When packing in, every ounce counts. A pack weighting 35 lbs feels much better after two miles of hiking than a 40 lbs pack. The last trip I took I was suprised on how light one of our members pack was. He had it down to just the stuff he needed. I learned a good lesson then. My next trip my pack will be about 10 lbs lighter than my first trip.
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Reply #35 - Oct 1st, 2010, 9:30am
 
It sounds like you've got all the right stuff in this thread, so I'll keep my 2¢ breif.
 
-As a foodie willing to cook in the wilderness, I found that my local chinese grocery is a true haven for ultra light foods. Dried mushrooms, pork & chinese sausages are super light and filling, combined with the right starch (cous cous, ramen w/o the gross little packet of sodium, quinoa,etc.), dried fruits, a splash of brandy. Those wax covered little cheeses keep long enough for a hike, too.
 
-My bandana makes a great coffee filter.
 
-The guitar stays home, I play uke instead. (A BP guitar could change that, but I dig the uke).
 
-A roll of toilet paper actually makes a great neck pillow.
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Reply #36 - Oct 1st, 2010, 10:05am
 
Quote from crash ash on Oct 1st, 2010, 9:19am:
One piece of advice though, try on the packs with at least 30 lbs in them.

 
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Also, get properly fitted for your pack.  
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Reply #37 - Oct 1st, 2010, 11:02am
 
Quote from Sasquatch on Sep 30th, 2010, 8:37pm:

My only question for the ultra-lighters: Ever get bitten by anything that left a mark while sleeping? I still have scars (albeit emotional) from a fire ant attack on the Kern 15 years ago... Can't imagine sleeping without a bug screened tent... But maybe I was just lucky?

 
On my last trip to some Sierra lakes, the skeeters were thicker than LA West Side traffic at rush hour.  Personally, I also would never consider sleeping without a tent just to keep them off me during the night, though a buddy does just that.  He packs a tube tent, which is open at each end.  It's really only good for rain protection.
 
Where they live, I'd also be concerned about scorpions crawling into my sleeping bag.  I believe that includes the Kern basin, though I've never seen one myself.
 
I also think the tent holds up to the moisture you can get from early morning dew.  I don't like packing away my sleeping bag still damp, and then crawling into it at the end of the day to find it still hasn't dried out.  That would be even more of a concern if you have a down bag.
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Reply #38 - Oct 1st, 2010, 11:15am
 
Quote from rufustf on Oct 1st, 2010, 9:30am:

-My bandana makes a great coffee filter.

 
If good coffee is a requirement, REI sells a new one cup coffee filter (MSR?) that's pretty light (maybe 2 oz.) and compressible.  It's basically a rubber ring, a cone of porous fabric draped inside, and 3 plastic legs that clip to the top of any thin walled coffee mug.  Being flexible, it stuffs inside any cup or pot in your pack.  Of course, paper filters are even lighter, but then you've got trash to pack out, and fairly messy trash at that.
 
I don't mind cowboy coffee on occasion, but I'm camping more than twice a month with kids' activities and all.  Cowboy coffee has started to get old, and recently ground beans from Peet's is a great way to start breakfast.
 
Since I've had to bring a bear canister, I've also been able to substitute that for a stool, but I am thinking of finding a really light pack stool for those trips where there aren't bear issues.
 
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Reply #39 - Oct 1st, 2010, 11:20am
 
Starbuck's Via has replaced coffee and my backpacking percolator (not heavy but takes up too much space) in my pack.
Just add boiling water and contents of a 'stick' in your cup... But be careful. The stuff is POTENT. I was tweaking for three hours after drinking 3 cups up on the Forks.
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Reply #40 - Oct 1st, 2010, 11:52am
 
On the toilet paper issue, I learned along time ago that those personel Kleenex packets work great. You know the kind that are wrapped up and fit in your wifes purse. I was backpacking along time ago in a rain storm and the tp was a gonner after it got wet. With the Kleenex packets they stay dry and I pack one per day of backpacking. They also don't take up the room that a roll does.
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Reply #41 - Oct 1st, 2010, 11:57am
 
Quote from Sasquatch on Oct 1st, 2010, 11:20am:
Starbuck's Via has replaced coffee and my backpacking percolator (not heavy but takes up too much space) in my pack.
Just add boiling water and contents of a 'stick' in your cup... But be careful. The stuff is POTENT. I was tweaking for three hours after drinking 3 cups up on the Forks.

 
instant coffee with alittle starbucks via to kick it up  
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Reply #42 - Oct 1st, 2010, 11:59am
 
Quote from crash ash on Oct 1st, 2010, 11:52am:
On the toilet paper issue, I learned along time ago that those personel Kleenex packets work great. You know the kind that are wrapped up and fit in your wifes purse. I was backpacking along time ago in a rain storm and the tp was a gonner after it got wet. With the Kleenex packets they stay dry and I pack one per day of backpacking. They also don't take up the room that a roll does.

 
I take my t.p off the roll and put it in zip lock bags so it stays dry
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Reply #43 - Oct 1st, 2010, 12:09pm
 
Quote from ryan on Oct 1st, 2010, 11:59am:
Quote from crash ash on Oct 1st, 2010, 11:52am:
On the toilet paper issue, I learned along time ago that those personel Kleenex packets work great. You know the kind that are wrapped up and fit in your wifes purse. I was backpacking along time ago in a rain storm and the tp was a gonner after it got wet. With the Kleenex packets they stay dry and I pack one per day of backpacking. They also don't take up the room that a roll does.


I take my t.p off the roll and put it in zip lock bags so it stays dry
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I use a smooth rock and prefer if it's wet.  Shocked
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Reply #44 - Oct 1st, 2010, 12:15pm
 
Quote from Trout Thumb on Oct 1st, 2010, 12:09pm:
Quote from ryan on Oct 1st, 2010, 11:59am:
Quote from crash ash on Oct 1st, 2010, 11:52am:
On the toilet paper issue, I learned along time ago that those personel Kleenex packets work great. You know the kind that are wrapped up and fit in your wifes purse. I was backpacking along time ago in a rain storm and the tp was a gonner after it got wet. With the Kleenex packets they stay dry and I pack one per day of backpacking. They also don't take up the room that a roll does.


I take my t.p off the roll and put it in zip lock bags so it stays dry
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I use a smooth rock and prefer if it's wet. Shocked

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